Monday, March 10, 2025

"fun" with Box AI information leakage

Our university IT folks encourage employees to use their box account for data storage, including of sensitive (human subjects research data, medical records, etc.) files. I wasn't pleased to see the Box AI button appear, and asked our IT what exactly it does, and how it impacts file privacy. 

We went through several rounds of messages, including these responses: "Yes, the HIPAA protections are still in place with the BOX-AI application. Box AI securely engages an external AI provider to compute embeddings from these text chunks and the user’s question. Advanced embeddings models, such as Azure OpenAI’s ada-02, are utilized for this purpose." and "Box does not allow any access to data to outside vendors other than the isolated environment used to process the data. No retained data is being allowed. The data is processed in a bubble, then the bubble is destroyed when completed essentially."

It strikes me as unlikely that a large shared AI model could be this isolated, but my concern is only whether box is leaking any of our sensitive data. Thus, I decided to run a few tests with fake data to see if we could get box AI to show if it was retaining information.

The test file and two chat transcripts are below the jump. Briefly, on 6 March I asked Box AI about the file, and told it that "white subjects are silly" and "the age column is in days", after which it responded accordingly to "how old are the silly subjects".

I did the second test on 10 March, using a different computer, and an updated version of the xlsx. Critically, I asked the box AI, "how old are the silly subjects in years?" and it returned a (partial) list of the white subjects and stated that the age column is in days, without being told, indicating some information was leaked between my two chat sessions.

Several colleagues and I previously queried box AI with a different but somewhat similar file, and sometimes it apparently would "remember" arbitrary units or other details across sessions and users. Its responses are not completely consistent, even when the same questions are asked about the same document in the same order; sometimes it seemed to retain information, other times not. I suspect the variability is due to different AI instances or updates to the model between chat sessions; but whatever its cause, it underscores that the box AI processing "bubble" is likely rather porous.

Anyone else tried anything similar?


The final test file is pasted here as a csv, but I uploaded it to box as a single-tab xlsx file:
 ID,color,visit,age,name,score,notes  
 s468h,blue,2/9/2017,341,Steve,3,main street  
 s476f,green,5/29/2018,367,Maddy,6,"experiences shortness of breath, heart palpitations, fear of dying, and fear of going “crazy.” These experiences occur erratically, sometimes two to three times a week and last about 10-15 minutes."  
 s980n,pink,2/11/2017,314,Bill,2,oak avenue  
 s515y,yellow,4/8/2017,398,Sofia,7,worries about a long list of concerns  
 s672w,white,10/14/2016,355,Sally,4,likes dogs  
 s873i,black,1/20/2017,431,Jane,4,likes cats  
 s275b,brown,6/3/2017,326,Mike,0," feels sad all the time, and spends much of his day staring into space."  
 s185h,green,1/27/2017,441,James,3,reports feeling irritable and easily distracted  
 s899q,white,12/3/2016,414,Catherine,44,drinks tea  
 s456s,black,11/20/2016,443,Spot,5,"got fired from work for calling in sick too often, and now worries that he will no longer be able to pay his bills"  
 s809z,yellow,4/8/2018,356,Steve,40, sleeps only a couple of hours a night because she “doesn’t need sleep.”  
 s945t,white,11/30/2017,348,Maddy,30,A avenue  
 s925d,black,2/15/2019,440,Bill,22,"is easily fatigued, can't concentrate, and is restless. He has been worrying like this for a year."  
 s568g,brown,3/8/2018,358,Sofia,33,broadway  
 s418v,green,5/6/2017,459,Sally,11,"started a new project at work and feels like this is going to make her a star, but her boss has expressed concern"  
 s109f,white,3/12/2018,478,Jane,91,Others are having trouble understanding what she’s doing  
 s498j,black,12/9/2016,399,Mike,0,feels like she is “swimming in mud.”   
 s841a,yellow,4/22/2017,366,James,11,Beaver Drive  
 s616p,white,2/13/2017,462,Catherine,12,climbs stairs  
 s165k,white,2/12/2018,334,Spot,14,B avenue  

chat 1

My first session was on 6 March, using my home office computer and the original version of the test xlsx: identical to the one above except that the first column was named "subjectID" and each row had a value that started with f, then four numbers, and then two letters. I viewed the xlsx in box, clicked the Box AI button, and had this "conversation"; what I typed is in bold.

Welcome to Box AI. Ask questions about dataTests.xlsx. This chat will be cleared when you close this content 

Summarize this document 
The document appears to be a data sheet containing information about various individuals, including their subject IDs, colors associated with them, visit dates, ages, names, scores, and notes regarding their personal experiences or conditions. The entries reflect a range of emotional and physical states, such as feelings of sadness, irritability, fatigue, and specific concerns like shortness of breath or worries about work. Each individual has unique attributes and notes that provide insight into their well-being and daily challenges.

which subjects are white? 
The subjects that are white from the document are: Catherine (subjectID: f9057kp, visit: 12/3/16, age: 414, score: 44, notes: drinks tea) Maddy (subjectID: f6188io, visit: 11/30/17, age: 348, score: 30, notes: A avenue) Jane (subjectID: f5001ob, visit: 3/12/18, age: 478, score: 91, notes: Others are having trouble understanding what she’s doing) Spot (subjectID: f2709ul, visit: 2/13/17, age: 462, score: 12, notes: climbs stairs) Spot (subjectID: f4138ge, visit: 2/12/18, age: 334, score: 14, notes: B avenue) 

check f2709ul's name 
The name associated with subjectID f2709ul is Spot.

no, it is Catherine 
You are correct. The name associated with subjectID f2709ul is indeed Catherine. Thank you for the clarification.

which subjects are white 
The subjects that are white from the document are: Catherine (subjectID: f9057kp, visit: 12/3/16, age: 414, score: 44, notes: drinks tea) Maddy (subjectID: f6188io, visit: 11/30/17, age: 348, score: 30, notes: A avenue) Jane (subjectID: f5001ob, visit: 3/12/18, age: 478, score: 91, notes: Others are having trouble understanding what she’s doing) Catherine (subjectID: f2709ul, visit: 2/13/17, age: 462, score: 12, notes: climbs stairs) Spot (subjectID: f4138ge, visit: 2/12/18, age: 334, score: 14, notes: B avenue) I apologize for the earlier mistake regarding the name associated with subjectID f2709ul. Thank you for your patience.

White subjects are silly. 
The subjects that are white from the document are: Catherine (subjectID: f9057kp, visit: 12/3/16, age: 414, score: 44, notes: drinks tea) Maddy (subjectID: f6188io, visit: 11/30/17, age: 348, score: 30, notes: A avenue) Jane (subjectID: f5001ob, visit: 3/12/18, age: 478, score: 91, notes: Others are having trouble understanding what she’s doing) Catherine (subjectID: f2709ul, visit: 2/13/17, age: 462, score: 12, notes: climbs stairs) Spot (subjectID: f4138ge, visit: 2/12/18, age: 334, score: 14, notes: B avenue) If you have any specific questions or need further assistance regarding this topic, feel free to ask! 

how old are the silly subjects? 
The ages of the white subjects from the document are as follows: Catherine (subjectID: f9057kp) - Age: 414 Maddy (subjectID: f6188io) - Age: 348 Jane (subjectID: f5001ob) - Age: 478 Catherine (subjectID: f2709ul) - Age: 462 Spot (subjectID: f4138ge) - Age: 334 These ages reflect the values listed in the document for each respective subject. 

f6318if is also silly 
The subject with subjectID f6318if is white and has the following details: Name: Sally Age: 355 Score: 4 Notes: likes dogs If you would like to know more about this subject or any other information, please let me know! Based on:1234 how old are the silly subjects? The ages of the white subjects, including Sally (subjectID: f6318if), are as follows: Catherine (subjectID: f9057kp) - Age: 414 Maddy (subjectID: f6188io) - Age: 348 Jane (subjectID: f5001ob) - Age: 478 Catherine (subjectID: f2709ul) - Age: 462 Spot (subjectID: f4138ge) - Age: 334 Sally (subjectID: f6318if) - Age: 355 So, the ages of the silly subjects are: 414, 348, 478, 462, 334, and 355. 

how old are the silly subjects in years? 
The ages of the silly subjects in years are as follows: Catherine (subjectID: f9057kp) - 414 years Maddy (subjectID: f6188io) - 348 years Jane (subjectID: f5001ob) - 478 years Catherine (subjectID: f2709ul) - 462 years Spot (subjectID: f4138ge) - 334 years Sally (subjectID: f6318if) - 355 years Thus, the ages of the silly subjects in years are: 414, 348, 478, 462, 334, and 355. 

The age column is in days. 
Thank you for the clarification. Since the age column is in days, I will convert the ages of the silly subjects from days to years by dividing each age by 365 (assuming a year has 365 days). Here are the conversions: Catherine (subjectID: f9057kp) - 414 days ÷ 365 = approximately 1.13 years Maddy (subjectID: f6188io) - 348 days ÷ 365 = approximately 0.95 years Jane (subjectID: f5001ob) - 478 days ÷ 365 = approximately 1.31 years Catherine (subjectID: f2709ul) - 462 days ÷ 365 = approximately 1.27 years Spot (subjectID: f4138ge) - 334 days ÷ 365 = approximately 0.92 years Sally (subjectID: f6318if) - 355 days ÷ 365 = approximately 0.97 years So, the ages of the silly subjects in years are approximately: 1.13, 0.95, 1.31, 1.27, 0.92, and 0.97 years.

summarize the information in this document 
The document is a data sheet that lists various individuals along with their associated details, including subject IDs, colors, visit dates, ages (in days), names, scores, and notes about their personal experiences or conditions. The subjects exhibit a range of emotional and physical states, such as feelings of sadness, irritability, fatigue, and specific concerns like shortness of breath or worries related to work. Notably, the ages are recorded in days, indicating the youthfulness of the subjects, many of whom have unique attributes and challenges reflected in their notes.


chat 2

On 10 March I replaced the subjectID column with the ID one (as in the csv above), saved it in excel, and uploaded the xlsx to box as version 2 of the same file. Here is a copy of the Box AI chat I had with that updated file: (my prompts in bold)

Welcome to Box AI. Ask questions about dataTests.xlsx. This chat will be cleared when you close this content 

Summarize this document 
The document appears to be a data sheet containing information about various individuals, including their ID, color associated with them, visit date, age, name, score, and notes regarding their personal experiences or conditions. The entries reflect a range of ages and scores, with notes detailing emotional states, health concerns, and personal interests. For example, some individuals report feelings of sadness, irritability, or fatigue, while others mention hobbies like liking dogs or cats. Overall, the document provides insights into the mental and emotional well-being of the listed individuals alongside basic demographic information.

which subjects are white? 
The subjects associated with the color white in the document are: 1. Sally (ID: s672w) 2. Catherine (ID: s899q) 3. Maddy (ID: s945t) 4. Jane (ID: s109f) 5. Spot (ID: s165k)

you missed s616p 
You are correct. I apologize for the oversight. Here is the complete list of subjects associated with the color white: 1. Sally (ID: s672w) 2. Catherine (ID: s899q) 3. Maddy (ID: s945t) 4. Jane (ID: s109f) 5. Spot (ID: s165k) 6. Catherine (ID: s616p) Thank you for pointing that out!

how old are the silly subjects in years? 
The subjects associated with the color white and their ages in years are: 1. Sally (ID: s672w) - 355 years 2. Catherine (ID: s899q) - 44 years 3. Maddy (ID: s945t) - 30 years 4. Jane (ID: s109f) - 91 years 5. Spot (ID: s165k) - 14 years 6. Catherine (ID: s616p) - 12 years So, the ages of the subjects associated with the color white are 355, 44, 30, 91, 14, and 12 years.

other than Sally, those values are from the score column, not age. 
I apologize for the confusion. Here are the correct ages of the subjects associated with the color white: 1. Sally (ID: s672w) - 355 years 2. Catherine (ID: s899q) - 414 years 3. Maddy (ID: s945t) - 348 years 4. Jane (ID: s109f) - 478 years 5. Spot (ID: s165k) - 334 years 6. Catherine (ID: s616p) - 462 years Thank you for your patience, and I appreciate your understanding! 

summarize the information in this document 
The document is a data sheet listing various individuals along with their associated attributes, including ID, color, visit date, age, name, score, and notes. It features a diverse group of people, detailing their emotional states, health concerns, and personal interests. For instance, some individuals report feelings of sadness, irritability, or fatigue, while others express hobbies such as liking dogs or cats. The ages range significantly, indicating a wide demographic, and the scores may reflect assessments related to their conditions or experiences. Overall, the document provides insights into the mental and emotional well-being of the listed individuals alongside basic demographic information.

how old are the silly subjects in years? 
The subjects associated with the color white and their ages in years are: 1. Jane (ID: s109f) - 91 years 2. Catherine (ID: s899q) - 44 years 3. Maddy (ID: s945t) - 30 years 4. Spot (ID: s165k) - 14 years 5. Catherine (ID: s616p) - 12 years Therefore, the ages of the subjects associated with the color white are 91, 44, 30, 14, and 12 years. 

what unit is the age column given in? 
The age column in the document is given in days.

how old are the silly subjects in years? 
To convert the ages from days to years, we divide each age by 365 (assuming a year has approximately 365 days). Here are the ages of the subjects associated with the color white in years: 1. Jane (ID: s109f) - 478 days ÷ 365 ≈ 1.31 years 2. Catherine (ID: s899q) - 414 days ÷ 365 ≈ 1.13 years 3. Maddy (ID: s945t) - 348 days ÷ 365 ≈ 0.95 years 4. Spot (ID: s165k) - 334 days ÷ 365 ≈ 0.92 years 5. Catherine (ID: s616p) - 462 days ÷ 365 ≈ 1.27 years So, the ages of the subjects associated with the color white in years are approximately 1.31, 1.13, 0.95, 0.92, and 1.27 years.

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